Disc Weights are a thing. I forget sometimes how important they are.
On some models, like distance drivers, I will hunt for domey discs in the 160s. The dome gives it more glide and the weight makes it easier to boom.
When it comes to mids and putters, as long as the discs are in the 170s, I usually find a way to make it work don't stress being off a few grams.
I had a conversation with a customer today in the store that made me think about these more today.
Do most customers understand how they affect flight?
I generally don't think so. The conversation wasn't too different the first I asked a clerk at PIAS about discs 15+ years ago. I wanted a 175g Max because I was a dude. I could handle it.
I was so wrong though.
I could not handle it. I was too worried about weight because that's how dudes are trained.
Bigger, faster, stronger. Manlier.
With something like a bowling ball, an increase or decrease of a pound is pretty noticeable.
With a disc though...we are talking about changes in grams. It's harder to feel it, especially as a beginner.
A 150g disc vs a 175g is going to feel different.
But for most, a 165g can be pretty much the same as a 175g.
In my experience these weight ranges show similar results in most models and brands.
- 150g - 156g - easiest to throw. ideal for kids, beginners and women.
- 158g - 163g - great for Age Protected divisions and women
- 164g - 167g - I like this range for distance drivers & also have a Lasso I love at 165g.
- 168g - 172g - this is where I think most males should be
- 173g - 176g - max weight range for 99% of drivers
- 177g - 180g - this weight range is typically only available in midranges
The problem is that when you get below 170g...the discs get harder to make. This is why many companies fill the voids at lighter weights with air bubbles(see Innova Blizzard).
At Mint we rarely do below 170g because it's just economical to make.
But it does make me wonder, if we could make 150g-169g more consistently, would people like it? Do they want it?
I know I'd be a fan of more 160g discs.
We have a lot of loyal Freetail and Lobster fans that want these discs in 150g as well.
As you go within these weight ranges, you will also start to see changes in Parting Line Height(PLH) and Dome. These things play a factor in stability and ease of throwing as well.
That's why I love my 165g Lasso.
It's a disc that has a natural late fade and is a hybrid putter of sorts. Flat top, deep rim, and no bead. So when you rip it hard off the tee, the disc will drift without flipping. Maybe the better way to describe it is this: Throw it as flat as possible. Right hand, backhand. The disc will drift to the right, while pushing forward, and then fade back at the end.
In a 175g Lasso, the flat throw will push to the spot you throw it before fading left of the target.
The 165g flight that I describe is more like...it's start out on target, drifts to the right, and then fades back ON TO the target.
It's the same flight, but the weight allows me to drift it.
I think that's a term for another day. Drift.
It's a different flight than Turn or Flip or Flex to me.
That will be a blog I enjoy.
Another day.
Enjoy Mint.
If you build it, they will come.
The people (me) want <160g Goats!
I’ve got one 165g Lasso of the 8 backups I have that I might have to go throw now. Typically this is what I use the UFO for but it doesn’t have the late fade.
I think people are getting more understanding of weights and how they affect the disc but still don’t really get how 5 grams can make a big difference.
I love my light weight apex salamander, she’s a cheat code